How To Human, Episode 66

This podcast with Sam Lamott was recorded almost two years ago, just before the pandemic. I’ve done a good number of interviews over the years, but this one was special. I knew it when I did and I patiently looked forward to its release. If you’ve never listened to one of my interviews or have been thinking about listening to one, this is the the one.

From the Hello Humans webpage:

“You may have heard Matthew’s story. A criminal steals a safe containing evidence of sexual violence against children, and has to confront a moral dilemma. Does he admit to stealing the safe and go to prison, so a violent offender faces justice and can’t hurt more children, or does he ignore what he’s just seen so he can be a free man?

Matthew and I have become good friends, and have talked about this story many times since the recording of the episode. He almost hates it because it’s a life-defining moment that doesn’t define who he is today. It’s a story that has transcended all the humans involved, and become archetypal mythology. A story of good vs. evil, and a story of the redemption of a broken man.

Whatever you think of the story, Matthew Hahn has been many things in his lifetime. A career criminal and drug addict, a selfless man of courage, a convict, a devout Buddhist, a recovered drug addict, and a loving husband and friend. His story contains almost everything I want to share with the world. His friendship is one of the great rewards of getting to do this work.”

The podcast is available at Apple Podcasts, Spotify, the Hello Humans website, or wherever you stream your podcasts.

2 thoughts on “How To Human, Episode 66

  1. I have been listening to Sam Lamott’s podcasts for a while now. And this one was by far the best one ever. I got so much out of it. I listened to it driving for hours in the car. I absolutely loved hearing this story of transformation, vulnerability, sorrow, addiction, and the absolute possibility of healing that exists within us, around us, and for us,

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